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Obviously if a company feels they can hire a local for less salary then they would have already done so and would not feel the need to pay higher salary plus living expenses for aims. So now, the point being if they are looking for employees IN London, and are willing to pay more to an expat (yes he is an expat, foreigner would be if he was hired in china and 'foreigners' don't get paid living expenses) then obviously they see some advantage of hiring aims instead of a local Chinese. Its not for us to decide, but for the company. MVM you are confused, read below about all the expenses for an expat, not just food and living expenses in china or for beautiful girls or higher social class (which is just ridiculous, perhaps jealousy or pettiness on your part) that you mentioned in your website. Of course I never said anyone deserves like 400-500% more for a job that a Chinese could do equally well. But that's the reality of life, expats get paid more because they communicate well with the HQs, they have expenses to pay in their home country, and when they retire they go back to home country to live etc. Its simple, if companies want to pay local salary, hire locally. But if they want to hire an expat, they better be ready to pay the home country salary or more, otherwise its just plain asinine. I am very emotional about this because I feel Jianshuo is letting his personal feelings affect the integrity of his opinion, which is what this website is based on. That feeling would be as you can read from all these posts by local chinese, that most Chinese just can't accept the fact that expats will always and should always get paid a lot more. I don't get it why JianShuo always bring up the living expenses in China etc whenever an expat ask about a salary question. This is the second time he made this stance if I recall correctly. One time he even replied to a user that 300,000 yuan or so was very good for expat working in project management with 5 years of experience! Come on...... That created bit of a ruckus and many people also commented on it. I expect a lot from this website and this is all very misleading and plain wrong. Some of the comments by Jianshuo, just really disappointed me, "I am not surprised at all" "You should expect little more than fresh graduates" seriously, are you kidding me? For someone to be hired IN London (if he is British and not Chinese student in Britain) its a joke. "When people enjoy the cheap China goods, they should have the expectation for lower salary here." What? He isn't in China looking for work, he is being sent here to work by a foreign company, so what about all the inconveniences aims has to experience as compared to Britain? What about all the expenses you are still paying back home? What about the retirement savings? What about staying away from home and family? Finally, "It seems in your case, the marketing position is not that unique and the company can easily find someone more than happy to take the job in local market. You cannot expect big advantage over the local candidate just because you are coming from abroad." For god's sakes, once more, it's not him that aimed to work in China, but a company who is sending him here. Why is marketing different from any other job, there are tons of Chinese in every field who are very much qualified and more than willing to do any job for lot less. In fact it is much easier for foreign companies to tell Chinese to do programming than to do Marketing. It's not easy to convey marketing ideas or vision from the HQ to a local candidate. The simple answer is, you should be paid at least YOUR local salary if a company is hiring you in your home country. ONCE AGAIN, it's completely different if you were hired in China. Why is it so hard for everyone to understand and accept this? Except for teaching English by some american college students, which still pays as much as what aims is being offered, I don't see any other job that would hire expats in their home country and pay such a low salary. This is no sales job or some low level job, otherwise no company would be stupid enough to hire aims from London, pay hirer salary (than local) and also pay for living expenses in China. Do your research Jianshuo before you give ridiculous advices and hurt people who look upto you for advices. AS FOR ALL THE PISSED OFF LOCAL CHINESE HERE, SURE IF A COMPANY HIRE A FOREIGNER IN CHINA AND PAY CHINESE SALARY THATS ALL FINE, BUT IF COMPANIES HIRE IN LONDON, THEY BETTER PAY LONDON SALARY OR MORE..... |
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