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Friends Started to Boycott French Products What does re-education entail and how would you like it if it was done to you personally? Answer a simple question dammit. China may want Tibet, the Tibetans don't want china. How clear can they make it? All the rest is evasive rhetoric, and you ain't fooling no-one with "Oh we have a better culture than the west." Looking forward to the shot-gun wedding in August. Not. |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products It seems to me that in Chinese culture there are 100 different ways to avoid answering a question. Maybe they are not so different to westerners after all. |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products @ Romantique, if you were referring to me, I was trying to illustrate, how a counter-demonstration by the Chinese is likely to be distorted by the western media,and even if they do get there point across, it will be dismissed by the west as "state-sponsored". Unfortunately no-one has asked me what I mean. I am hoping that if I have commited some social faux part, they will be kind enough to let a foreigner know. @Jian Shuo and the other Chinese posters here, can I please ask: Could someone explain what education to "reunify the thinking...of the officials and the masses" means in practise? Here is the BBC article it came from. Thanks Sorry about the last two sentences, but in the interest of truth, I have left them in, although I don't find the attitude of the Paris city council helpful. China seeks to 'educate' Tibetans Rioters overturn a car in the Tibetan capital Lhasa, March 2008 The initiative follows rioting on the streets of Lhasa in Tibet China has launched an "education" campaign in Tibet it says is designed to undermine support for the Dalai Lama and any separatist sentiment. The Tibet Daily newspaper said the campaign was to "unify the thinking... of officials and the masses". The initiative follows violent clashes last month between police and monks in Tibet, and pro-Tibetan demonstrations around the world. Beijing has accused the Dalai Lama of inciting unrest - claims he has denied. The Tibetan spiritual leader, who lives in exile in India, insists he has no political role and played no part in the protests by Tibetan Buddhist monks that erupted into rioting in the main city Lhasa. But he condemned the Chinese crackdown that followed, and accused Beijing of committing "cultural genocide" in Tibet. Tibetan sympathisers and human rights activists have since used the worldwide tour of the Olympic torch to protest against Beijing's hosting of the Olympic Games this August. Security tightened China's Communist Party has long used what it calls "patriotic education campaigns" to impose discipline and reinforce its authority, says the BBC's Daniel Griffiths in Beijing. The Tibet Daily says the latest drive will include television programmes and a series of sessions in which the Dalai Lama will be denounced by Communist Party members, other officials and local people. Campaigns requiring monks in Tibetan monasteries to denounce the Dalai Lama and declare their loyalty to Beijing have also been stepped up. China has poured troops into Tibet and tightened its borders ahead of the passage of the Olympic flame through the territory, on its way to Mount Everest in early May. It accuses the Dalai Lama of wanting to divide Tibet from China and sabotage the Olympics. France targeted Protests have recently erupted in China to counter those that have accompanied the torch relay in the West. The incidents that were brought about by a few people on this sad day don't reflect the feelings of my fellow countrymen for the Chinese people Nicolas Sarkozy Sarkozy tries to mend China ties The French supermarket company Carrefour has been targeted with an attempted boycott for allegedly supporting the Dalai Lama - though it has denied doing so. French President Nicolas Sarkozy apologised in a letter to a disabled Chinese athlete who was jostled as she carried the Olympic torch in Paris, in an apparent attempt to soothe ties with China. However, Paris city council has said it will give the Dalai Lama honorary citizenship. Bertrand Delanoe, the city's Socialist mayor, said the gesture would "pay tribute to a champion of peace - a tireless advocate of dialogue between peoples". |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products Hi Joyce, Have you been to Tibet in the recent weeks? What is happening ther now, do you know? Please don't repeat the same old Mantra. |
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Wangjianshuo's Blog on BBC, Again There is life here! I was beginning to wonder if this website had been blocked by the great firewall, as I seem to be talking to myself. We seem to have moved away from the original issue here, talking about boycotts and East-West mentality differences. I would like to ask, does anyone here actually know what is really happening in the Tibetan Autonomous region and other areas with large Tibetan populations. The Chinese government seems to be drip-feeding information, three weeks late, but do any of you really know? 6 million Tibetans and not a single one has spoken here. Jana |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products A Russian asking how you can boycott the olympics? Sorry still no pictures on the BBC, maybe you should smash something. Congrats on your state-sponsored demonstration. :-) |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products Oh yes, Congrats guys, you got your protest on the major news-channels in the west ;-) Lets hope the coverage is not biased and distorted like the anti-Tibet protest. The western media only showed the violent protests not the peaceful ones. |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products Feilong, I can relate to what you are saying. When Tony Blair was first elected, I felt he was doing good things for Britain (the peace agreement in N, Ireland for example), so I voted for him again. When he decided to invade Iraq, i thought he was wrong, so I voted for someone else. But knowing British history, I do listen to opinion from outside Britain, as we have got things so wrong in the past, and I don't want us to get things wrong in the future. Wish I had a time-machine sometimes. |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products If I could add that it is a little unfair to single out the French as people travelled to Paris from all over Europe to demonstrate, including England and Switzerland. Not that that excuses anything. Jana |
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My Experience of Culture and Religion in Tibet Wayfarer, interesting missive, but I think that neither the Chinese readers nor the Westerners are that naive. Spin is something we are all used to. |
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Friends Started to Boycott French Products Hello all of you. I am slightly nervous about writing here as I am involved in the protest about Tibet, Burma and certain people arrested in China shortly before the torch ceremony in London. However as I am resident in Switzerland, I never had any intention of taking part in demonstrations. My activities have been to write polite letters to politicians and prominent people asking them to raise these issues, when they have the chance, with those in power in China. I do not hate the Chinese people, I do not approve of any form of violence. I certainly do not approve of the people who either tried to grab the torch or attack those given the honour of carrying it. You may feel that I have no right to question the chinese government and that I am ill informed about China, but as I read comments here, I feel that your intensions are basically good. That you are trying to find a way of letting people know how you as individuals feel, about events that are completely out of your control, that no-one seems to be able to stop. I believe you are all able to understand that that is all the ordinary people in Europe and America are trying to do. Maybe we are all ill-informed. I would like the chance to listen to you and discuss with you. Thanks,Jana. |