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10 Top Two Differences in China

THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AMERICA AND CHINA

The major difference between America and China is in essence the major difference between the Americans and the Chinese people. This difference lies in the culture of individualism vs collectivism. The other differences such as tipping, etc. are not differences or are unimportant differences. Some Americans are also very cheap and they don't tip or tip very miserably. The Americans look down upon the Chinese for spitting; at the same time, the Chinese parents penalize their kids for "finger lickin good" which is rather popular among the Americans consumers.

This major difference of cultural mentality or ISM surfaces most vividly in the decision making of individuals'. Most Americans have been trained to think independently whereas most Chinese have been regimented or trained to take orders. Independent decision making is essential to the functioning of democracy. Perhaps this is why democracy and regimented upbringing are not compatible with each other.
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-10-02 12:41:10. More

9 Who is Chinabounder

In conclusion, shit pay gets shit teachers! Education is a business and like any business the relationship between the price paid and the quality of the product is directly proportional!

Simple as that!
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-30 18:41:51. More

8 Who is Chinabounder

Dude:

I don't think any foreign teacher should be kicked out of China for having sex with his students. If you kicked out the teachers, why not kick out the students who have sex with the teachers.

The whole thing could have been a non-issue if some people just learned the courtesy of keeping their months shut. But then again, what can you expect from characters who are extracted from the unemployment line in the west and managed to find employment in schools that pay shit!

The Chinese schools for the past many years have been using foreign teachers as promotional tools to attract student enrolment, knowing full well these 'foreign teachers' are not teachers by trade and there is a limited scope of English they are qualified to teach.

ChinaBounder is a piece of trash intellectually and morally. But then again what can you expect to hire for a few thousand RMB a month???? You can't burn candles on both ends. Can you?
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-30 18:37:39. More

7 Who is Chinabounder

CS GAS:

You wrote:"First of all, you Chinese would be a lot more respected worldwide if you really dropped this "we are so bloody unique" thing. "

There are so many Chinese in this world and "you Chinese" is a silly generalization to include all of them. Have you done a survey on the number of people in China who have this attitude? Similar generalizations can be made of any group. By setting up a strawman, you went ahead to this strawman of your own making. Pal, this strawman about the Chinese thinking themselves unique or better than anyone doe NOT exist except in your imprecise English description. That is to say, you do NOT have a point here!

Loiterer
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-30 18:24:40. More

6 Who is Chinabounder

Correction:

The word used should have been 'afford' as in "she will be able to _offer_ better teachers.
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-17 12:00:58. More

5 Who is Chinabounder

Attn: Mr. Jian Shuo Wang,

Please pay attention to the following grammatical error:

You wrote:"Very briefly, I know this is a _misbehaved_ British person in Shanghai".

The correct way to say it is "a _misbehaving_ British person". It refers to a British person who misbehaves.

Are you an English teacher in Shanghai? I am involved in the business of teaching English as a foreign teacher. I am a Hong Kong Chinese who was hired as a 'foreign teacher' despite my non-foreign appearance. In general, I would say that the English standard of the foreign teachers' in China at this time is LOWER than that of the high school graduates in HK at the time when the British were there. But I am sure when China becomes a richer country, she will be able to offer better teachers---i am talking about the qualified English teachers or the _true_ foreign teachers. For the time being, just amuse yourself with whatever performance you find in these 'foreign jokers'.

HK was governed by the British for over 150 years. That means the HK education system has had the experience of teaching English as a second language over that period of time. When China first opened up, the Chinese education bureacrats could have come to HK and asked us for advice. Instead, they went ahead to come up with 'foreign' teacher practice. Thus any joker who looks foreign is automatically hired to teach English. YOu guys in the mainland have no one to blame upon except your peasantry innocence!
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-17 11:55:25. More

4 Who is Chinabounder

Another Foreign born ethnic Chinese in China,

Have you done a survey of the percentage of Chinese immigrants who are boasting of China but keep bitching about their adopted countries?

You, like many around here, don't seem to have taken a course in statistics but keep making generalizations with a lot of here-say and holding onto them as a benchmark of 'truth'.

Constructive criticism is welcomed worldwide but obscenity is not.

Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-09 12:22:54. More

3 Who is Chinabounder

Stephen,

When the foreign teachers return home after teaching in China for a number of years, they practically have NOTHING left when their meager savings in RMB is converted into Canadian or US$!
In other words, they will start like poor immigrants. YOu can imagine what the rest is like. This sort of setting makes them either predatory or desporado people. No joke! I know because I am involved in that field.

Loiterer
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-09 09:25:58. More

2 Who is Chinabounder

Lately a 'foriegn teacher' in Shanghai of China, who sounds like
someone from the unemployment line in UK, has written in vivid details about his sexual encounters with his students in a blog and what he wrote has caused much fury amongst many local readers.

However, I think the Chinese schools should get used to events like this as events like this will always be expected.

There is currently a huge demand for foreign teachers of English in China. Unfortunately, given the level of disposable income in China at this point, most Chinese schools are unable to hire qualified or trained teachers. As a result, many trash-typed individuals from foreign countries who are unable to obtain employment at home are flocking to China to try their luck. Thus rotten qualify of foreign teachers, both professionally and morally, should not come as a surprise.

The economics law once again applies here: you get what you pay for. Low prices for products are usually associated with low quality products.

People in China just have to accept that. The Chinese schools should not expect to hire quality teachers at peanut prices.

YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR. Simple as that!

The Chinese 'peasant' school administors create predatory teachers as follows:
(1)The government disallows foreign teachers to preach religion. Thus the missionary people either don't go there or go there in small number. Most of these are very decent people.
(2)The large pool of retired professors and teachers from the west could have been a great help to the Chinese students. But at the age of retirement, these teachers are no longer handsome looking boys and pretty looking girls and therefore they are not hired by Chinese schools as they can not be used as promotional tools.
(3)Thus many young and the restless, preferrably white, with little spiritual or moral inclination, no teaching experience, barely a bachelor degree in liberal arts from a mediocre community college, who can't get jobs locally, lacking in money to travel and live in hotels, but can be used as promotional tools by the schools are hired...

The causality relationship of the current internet turmoil over China Bounder can be explained well within the framework of economics substance.
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-09 02:25:47. More

1 Who is Chinabounder

I think it is the right of ChinaBounder to say what he wants to say in his blog and equally the right of anyone who reads his blog to criticize him.

There is as much foreign trash as there is Chinese trash in this world and we just have to accept that. The current commotion seems to have set up a divide between 'Chinese' and 'foreigners'. As someone who is somewhat familiar with the Shanghainese mentality, a foreigner is often referred to a white westerner.

There are many foreigners who are unable to do well at home and are flocking to China in search of opportunities while at the same time there are Chinese who go abroad for the same purpose. That foreigners criticize China does not mean they don't love what they have got in China. By the same token the Chinese who have immigrated overseas don't express their discontent of the new places because they don't love the new places. The Shanghai girls are well known for their vanity tendency but my experience with the western girls also suggests the latter are not much different except that the Chinese girls in Shanghai are more outspoken about money while in the politically correct west the girls' tendency to go after money is disguised under the umbrella of 'true love'.

I reserve my opinion of Chinabounder's exotic performance as I have seen something more exotic than that from some British in HK. Usually people like that have unmet expectations of what they are and what they are capable of doing....at home. It is the distance between where they are now and where they think they should be that is responsible for the outpouring of their suppressed emotion in a way that disregards how the simple folks in the streets feel.
Posted by Loiterer at 2006-09-09 02:04:40. More